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Old 06-05-2013, 06:23 AM
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Default Four Chisel Steels Compared

PM-V11, A2, White Steel, O1/HCS

Link to article: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolRev...sCompared.html

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Very interesting, Derek! Thanks for taking the time to document your findings.
I don't have any A2 chisels or the veritas. However, I do have some white steel chisels (koyamaichi's) and they are very nice. I also use some very old japanese chisels, and they are also fantastic, but not pretty to look at
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Wonderful review Derek - thank you. I'm looking forward to trying the PMV-11 chisels at some point. Right now I only have some A2 LN socket chisels, and a set of A2 Blue Spruce butt chisels. I've been very disappointed at how badly the LN chisels hold an edge. Often (like your Stanleys) it's only a few cuts before it chips and dulls. I've found that different widths have different durabilities - the 1/2" seems to be the worst. Very frustrating.

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I'm surprised A2 performs so poorly, although I've only ever used A2 with plane irons.
When I have funds, I'm looking forward to swapping all my A2 irons for the new Veritas iron on my bevel-up planes.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:55 PM
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Interesting article, Derek. Thanks for the link.

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Wonderful review Derek - thank you. I'm looking forward to trying the PMV-11 chisels at some point. Right now I only have some A2 LN socket chisels, and a set of A2 Blue Spruce butt chisels. I've been very disappointed at how badly the LN chisels hold an edge. Often (like your Stanleys) it's only a few cuts before it chips and dulls. I've found that different widths have different durabilities - the 1/2" seems to be the worst. Very frustrating.

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Out of curiosity, what angle are you putting on your LN chisels? 30 or 35?
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:20 AM
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It's whatever they came with, Mike.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:33 AM
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I think they might come with a 30 degree angle?
I hear anything less than 30 with A2 can be a problem.
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:35 AM
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Now that I made the effort to look it up, you're right, Okami-san: they come with a 30 degree bevel. It does say that a 35 degree microbevel is advisable for some woods (probably including cherry...). So maybe I need to make a more aggressive microbevel on my LNs to reduce chipping.

But I also hate the way the handle keeps falling off. Drives me nuts. I'm planning on selling them, and getting a set of Blue Spruce bench chisels at some point. The LNs just don't resonate well with me. Yes, I could glue the handles on, but that reduces their utility.
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Now that I made the effort to look it up, you're right, Okami-san: they come with a 30 degree bevel. It does say that a 35 degree microbevel is advisable for some woods (probably including cherry...). So maybe I need to make a more aggressive microbevel on my LNs to reduce chipping.

But I also hate the way the handle keeps falling off. Drives me nuts. I'm planning on selling them, and getting a set of Blue Spruce bench chisels at some point. The LNs just don't resonate well with me. Yes, I could glue the handles on, but that reduces their utility.
Peter,

You might try the hair spray trick on the handles.
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