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Old 10-16-2008, 05:52 PM
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Default Cutting shelf pins with the Domino

Charles Wilson had mentioned using the Domino to cut shelf pins. After being told that the Euro style pins were too tacky (probably 'cause she who has the taste in this household associates 'em with cheap particle board furniture), and not wanting to inset tracks, I decided to try it.

I'm not sure how these two attached images will show up, but I just built two boards with equal width with a lip, put one on the edge of my work piece, clamped it, cut my holes, put the other one up against the first, cut the holes against it, and then kept leap-frogging them up my board.

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The temporary installation of the cabinet using this
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Dan

Cool

Now, if you used a slot cutter and put a stopped rabbet in the ends of the shelf (or just stepped the domino along the edge but I think a slot cutter would be faster) you could slide it onto the dominoes and the shelf would "float" without any visible means of support.

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Nah - it's easier than that: take two shelves and put them bottom to bottom with their front and back edges aligned. Then use the Domino to make a mortise exactly half way up the stack on the sides of the boards, so that half the mortise is on one board, and half on the other board. The mortise will exactly fit the domino, which will be almost invisible once the shelf is up.
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Then use the Domino to make a mortise exactly half way up the stack on the sides of the boards, so that half the mortise is on one board, and half on the other board.
Yeah, I plan to do something similar, but last night I just put the shelves up so we could put the food away. Since my shelves have a hanging lip on the front (I'm a wuss, I wanted zero sag, so I put a 1 1/2" strip along the front), the Dominos are essentially invisible now. The main advantage I'd have of cutting indents in the shelves for the Dominos is that the shelf wouldn't slide out any more, it'd have to be lifted.
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If you live in a place with earthquakes, non-sliding shelves could be a good thing.

I like the stiffening strip along the front of the shelves. I think it gives it a nice look.

Great work!
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Yeah, I understand how you can do the "exposed domino" shelf support, but to my mind that isn't that much different than the unacceptable metal support pins

This is the product that the slot trick would replace

Wire Shelf Supports - Lee Valley Tools

In a fancy exposed situation where the bottom of the shelves can be seen I like the "floating" application. But in a pantry with a reinforcing strip on the front edge, probably overkill...................

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Oh! I get it now! The dominos would slide into a dado in the shelf edge. You'd want to cut the dado before putting the stiffener on the front of the shelf - that'd make life easier. A bit late now, I guess...

Good idea! I like it!
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Another way to do this is to use the Domino machine on the shelf pin router sled and pierced guide rails. Only takes drilling a couple of holes to mate with the spring pins in the first generation Domino machine. Works well and is very fast and accurate. Check the tutorial on my web site for details.

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Oh! I get it now! The dominos would slide into a dado in the shelf edge. You'd want to cut the dado before putting the stiffener on the front of the shelf - that'd make life easier. A bit late now, I guess...

Good idea! I like it!
I guess you could do this with just the shelf pins too. Of course it wouldn't have the same panache' as dominos.
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Another way to do this is to use the Domino machine on the shelf pin router sled and pierced guide rails.
Yeah, but then I'd have to buy another rail, and since I've dropped a grand this month in plywood and hinges alone, and will probably do the same next month (not to mention slides, and Accuride even gave me two boxes full of them for evaluation), I'm sure I'd get a little pushback from the checkbook watcher...
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